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F22B1 sohc VS H22A dohc

 
Sega3 Sega3
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 01/09
Posted: 01/10/09
04:01 PM

Hello! I have alot of questions about my honda accord.First question is Is my F22b1 sohc v-tec worth keeping and build it up or is the H22A dohc v-tec swap a better choice? Im so undecided!!Right now as it is the car is running strong with 165k miles on it. I want more power but dont want to sink $3500 into a turbo set up when i can get a bigger engine for half that. Also when i start the car it sounds like a diesel engine till it warms up has been that way for almost 12 yrs now. Its not a problem but it turns heads.Lol! Thanks for your help. Hope to hear from someone soon!  

 
Kaskiat Kaskiat
New User | Posts: 6 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 01/14/09
09:22 PM

Hey I have also been looking at swapping engines in my accord instead of a turbo. Just to save you some time try asking JDM motors. I have posted many forums and havent gotten any advice. Another engine you may consider is the euro accord engine, harder to find info on but more powerful than the H22A.  

 
93h23si 93h23si
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 01/09
Posted: 01/15/09
10:07 AM

ive been having a f22b1 in my accord when i had it till i sold it for a h23 prelude. i would say go for the h22a it comes out good and storng. its out of a prelude which i have but i have a h23 not a h22 and i do plan to put a h22 head in my prelude. the h22 give aout alot more power then the f22 so if i was you i would deff. swap the engine i was going to swap my f22 i had to a h22 but like i said i sold it to buy a prelude. so its up to you. but the h22 puts out alot of power right from the start. well goodluck  

 
JealousIntentionHR JealousIntentionHR
New User | Posts: 40 | Joined: 01/09
Posted: 01/15/09
10:16 PM

If i were u i would definitely build up the f22. SOHC makes more hps than DOHC built.  

 
95.CD7 95.CD7
New User | Posts: 10 | Joined: 03/09
Posted: 04/21/09
09:36 AM

Id go with the H22, same size, but has around 200 hp.  Plus, it is the oe engine for the Accord SiR, which also makes it fairly easy to swap in.  Only one motor mount needs to be changed, and two pins in the wire harness need to be flipped.  Haven't done it yet, as money is tight, but I have done a lot of research.  

 
TNT TNT
User | Posts: 72 | Joined: 03/09
Posted: 04/21/09
01:23 PM

QUOTE: "If i were u i would definitely build up the f22. SOHC makes more hps than DOHC built."

No, not really. It is cheaper to modify and make good power with though.

QUOTE: "First question is Is my F22b1 sohc v-tec worth keeping and build it up or is the H22A dohc v-tec swap a better choice?"

It depends on your power goals. If you want to make moderate gains on the cheap look at doing the standard intake/headers/exhaust on your current motor. It'll cost you less than a grand and will net you between 15 and 20 extra horsepower. If its a standard transmission, install a lighter flywheel next time you change the clutch for another 7-10 HP. But if your goal is much more significant, I would highly recommend an H22 swap, or possibly even a J-series swap.  
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maddaccord maddaccord
New User | Posts: 6 | Joined: 08/09
Posted: 08/14/09
10:20 PM

It depends on if you are running obd1 or 2. I would do a h22 or a h23a1 with a h22a head. H23a1 with the h22 head is a stroked h22. That is what i was running till last week when the cranked shaped. To much boost. It held 35 psi till the crank broke. Just wanted to see how much it will hold. Now i am building another h23a vtec blue top and doing a backward conversion to obd1. At the end I should have about 400hp on 20 psi.  

 
jbaccord jbaccord
New User | Posts: 13 | Joined: 06/08
Posted: 08/22/09
11:32 AM

Ok lets clear a few things up here. Both the H23 and H22 came in the U.S. Prelude, depends on the Generation of the vehicle as to which motor you would get. Secondly, the Euro-R Accord came with an H22 as well; the horse power difference is mainly found in the Intake Manifold and the factory header.  Both of these can be put on any H22 but the Intake does require a little fabrication.  The JDM Accord SiR and SiR-T had a F20B DOHC engine, putting out just about the same number of horse power as the H22. It is however slightly lower in the torque numbers. There are several possible "Frankenstein" options with all these motors; parts are interchangeable between motors.  If you decide to swap pay the money for the tranny as well, that is unless you plan on boosting the engine at a later date. Keeping the motor Naturally Aspirated (NA), the H tranny has closer ratio's meaning better acceleration; if however you boost the F tranny has longer ratio's, meaning you can stay in the gears a little longer while making boost.  

 
jdmreti718 jdmreti718
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 02/10
Posted: 02/12/10
05:43 PM

Ive had both h22 and euro f20b in a 99 accord with stock f23 trany I personaly like the f20b. Gears are longer. The power is almost the same but the rareness is what I like h22 are over rated my opinion  

 
h22acivic h22acivic
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 02/10
Posted: 02/12/10
07:16 PM

I have a turboed H22A in my civic i am runin about 16 lb makein right at 400hp. I drive it ever day to work,  but i been thinking about take that motor out and puting the f22 bottom end on my H22 head and makeing the G22 and turning the boost up.  If i was you i would look for a H22 head and rebuild the f22 bottomend with good rod and piston. It would be cheaper then buying a h22 and drop it in. and you will only get about 180hp with a jdm and about 160hp usdm.  for the money you drop on a H you can buy a cheap turbo kit and boost the F  
turbo h22 on 16psi

 
rodriguezyadir rodriguezyadir
New User | Posts: 7 | Joined: 02/10
Posted: 02/13/10
06:37 PM

man there is a few choice's tp chose from 1. will be your f22b1 2. will be the f22a block with the single vtec head on it. 3.will be boost it. the honda accord block is the strongest bolck know to hold boost   .ask any one who knows about honda 3 will be the h22a head on the f22a block.4. will be the f20b or the h22a,h23.h23a.    5. will be the k series motor yes the k series.there new and with the right turbo they say power 6. and last that i know is the j32 v6 swap off the tl type s...i heard of some guy in new york with that swap.....but my personal choice will be beteew the h22a or the f20b they both come with 200hp there both twin cam vtec....and they both rev as high...(9800) plus i have an accord a 91 cb7 for your F.Y.I. plus i alreay blew a k20 motor in my accord.  now i'm going f20b  

 
92accordKid 92accordKid
New User | Posts: 14 | Joined: 07/10
Posted: 07/07/10
03:02 AM

i wuld prefer f22..cuz unlike da f22's block,h22's block gots fiberlinings combined with its cylinder walls..so wen smokes starts blowing out your second h22,you knw were to chek.and repairs is a pain in da butt and wallet..performance wise,it all depends on how you build da engine for wat typical use..big ups to bisi frm bisimoto..love dat n/a f22 motor.  

 
joe_accord23 joe_accord23
New User | Posts: 6 | Joined: 07/10
Posted: 07/11/10
11:28 PM

The H22A is a more powerful engine with a compression ratio of 10.6:1, while the f22b has 8.8:1, still superb!..The f22 is a engine with alot of potential, look at bisimotos f22, thats amazing isnt it?..i think u shuld stay with the f22 and tune it up, with 3500 u will produce massive power gains whether its a turbo or n/a. i own an f22b2 and its already seeing powergains, i will however swap an h22a to my other accord, again they're both gr8 engines, depending on the power ur looking for u will know which one to go with.  
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motorman85 motorman85
New User | Posts: 3 | Joined: 10/10
Posted: 10/11/10
09:40 PM

I have an f22b1 sohc vtec in my 96 accord ex it has 244,700 miles on it. I still have plenty of power, but would like to get more power out of it, and change it to a standard transmission. I have also thought about swaping to an h22. i would like more info on putting an h22 head on my f22b1 if i rebuild my bottom end. what other options would boost my hp while staying n/a.  

 
jdm_sleeper jdm_sleeper
New User | Posts: 9 | Joined: 04/09
Posted: 10/17/10
10:06 PM

I like the h22a swap.
You can  the engine off ebay for under 900 dollars and the vtec sub harness for 30 dollars. Add an extra 100 dollars and you can get the p13 ecu.
It is simple to swap; bolt right up.
for $3,500 dollars you could have a jdm h22a with less then 50k miles on it.
or you could build your f series block with 165k on it.
either way in the end you would have one hell of a build.
N/A or boost?
I have N/A and I want to do the g23 frankenstein build next and boost it.
the easy route is euro-r and the work route is boost.
ask some of your friends that have done both.

good luck.  

 
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